So I like to live on the Edge and there have been others that have updated the NVR and didn't like it, have said it was not complete and didn't work right...
At first sight WOW I am going to have to get used to this look... WOW I have been using Amcrest and other DVR/NVR's with same format as Amcrest since 2010 or 2011 was my first time with a Dahua product.. One thing is most of them all look the same or within Reason of looking the same..
I just updated my 2116-HS and I don't know yet really what the impact will be.. First out of the gate I wanted to say I like the look.. Little different looking and personally I like the new LOOK.. To bad my 4108h and my 4108E will not get a new looking FW and my 7204.. However if I have a look at the body of Device those 3 look the same in the front view so it is fine that my Smaller 4k device looks different in Software.. SO I have not done a Factory Reset and I will after I look around little first.. Before the night is over I will do a Reset and add my Cameras back in...
On first look.. I don't mind the new looking system.. It displays the 9ch grid that I use for my system so it is just fine for me..
I was going to ask people that have 2116-HS what they thought about the Update before I did the Update but I said NA Just do it.. Live on the Edge lol... I will say if there is anything I don't like after I give the new look a spin for a little while.. I am just glad I have some older FW to fall back on to help out others that are still on the old FW look... Please I have loads of Machines with the old LOOK lol.. Maybe I will get Lucky and Discover something new and cool...
WOW I feel like I have a NEW NVR with 2020 FW lol
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Awww I think I do see what some were talking about little less Quality in the Picture mode...
Ok first of all.. I did a Config backup before the update.. The numbers below are going to be different from most others and please note that the numbers after the update and Reset is the numbers are only with my First 4 core cameras loaded.. I didn't setup any Grids, or motions or anything that my Before numbers have already loaded with 16 cameras... I was thinking it was going to be a Smaller number then before however the numbers after reset and update are higher and I am not even done setting up the NVR and that number is going to go much higher after the other 12 cameras are added and setup for Motion, FTP, SMTP, and all the other things that are no longer running after a Reset... But you can see in the number there was over 6k of Rogue code after the Update without a Reset... I can't Stress it enough after a FW Update you need to Reset your Device to Factory so it will run right...
17841Before doing Update
25432 After Update without a Reset
19187 After doing a Reset after the Update
Edit: WOW ok sorry I hadn't changed my Display settings for 1080P until after I wrote that message about Quality of Picture and I am sorry I am wrong the Picture quality is just as nice as it was before the update to me anyway... It started out in 1024 mode and that just didn't look good to me 1080 much better....
Ok first of all.. I did a Config backup before the update.. The numbers below are going to be different from most others and please note that the numbers after the update and Reset is the numbers are only with my First 4 core cameras loaded.. I didn't setup any Grids, or motions or anything that my Before numbers have already loaded with 16 cameras... I was thinking it was going to be a Smaller number then before however the numbers after reset and update are higher and I am not even done setting up the NVR and that number is going to go much higher after the other 12 cameras are added and setup for Motion, FTP, SMTP, and all the other things that are no longer running after a Reset... But you can see in the number there was over 6k of Rogue code after the Update without a Reset... I can't Stress it enough after a FW Update you need to Reset your Device to Factory so it will run right...
17841Before doing Update
25432 After Update without a Reset
19187 After doing a Reset after the Update
Edit: WOW ok sorry I hadn't changed my Display settings for 1080P until after I wrote that message about Quality of Picture and I am sorry I am wrong the Picture quality is just as nice as it was before the update to me anyway... It started out in 1024 mode and that just didn't look good to me 1080 much better....
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Re: WOW I feel like I have a NEW NVR with 2020 FW lol
Ok so Here is some info that may or may not matter to people however I feel is important...
Be careful who you give your Admin account to for WebUI access... So as this thread says I updated my NVR today sadly only my 2116-HS will get an update all the rest are sadly old and outdated.. But I do like the new look...
Here is why by Careful.. From the WebUI you can Shut the system off and depending on the type you have you might not be able to recover without being in front of the Unit... So I did some testing and there is something interesting about this whole deal..
Log in with P2P over the Amcrest View app and you don't even know it is offline unless your able to have a playback and try to play back something that should have been recording but didn't because it is offline you will still be able to cycle thorough your cameras and see what is going on No Alerts will come when offline and you don't have ability to turn or Reboot from app.. However if you were to log back in via Forwarded Port over the WebUI you can log in and do a Reboot and the system will Recover.. However lets say that someone did this even without knowing at 11am, Your expecting a Package and they get there around 2 to 3 most times so at 4 you have not had an alert so you log in over P2P and see that the package is there so you think that is odd no alert lets playback and see when it was delivered. You try to play back and there is no footage since 11... No one is home and you don't get off work for another 2 hours... If you don't have anyway to log into your WebUI and reboot your system.. Sadly there was not anything telling me that my system was offline when I logged into the NVR over WebUI after the Remote Shutdown order was given.. So you could log in not even know and think your system is failing..
I have not setup any other accounts yet on the NVR for testing this out if this could happen with a User account but as of NOW I know it can happen with Admin account and that can be bad.. I did look over the footage from playback and sure enough after you give the Shutdown it is no longer Recording
I will do more Testing of this with different accounts and account types I will start with a User account and if it can not shut down then I will see if it could be setup for a different admin that you might be able to take away that right I will have to test this out still... Report to follow...
Be careful who you give your Admin account to for WebUI access... So as this thread says I updated my NVR today sadly only my 2116-HS will get an update all the rest are sadly old and outdated.. But I do like the new look...
Here is why by Careful.. From the WebUI you can Shut the system off and depending on the type you have you might not be able to recover without being in front of the Unit... So I did some testing and there is something interesting about this whole deal..
Log in with P2P over the Amcrest View app and you don't even know it is offline unless your able to have a playback and try to play back something that should have been recording but didn't because it is offline you will still be able to cycle thorough your cameras and see what is going on No Alerts will come when offline and you don't have ability to turn or Reboot from app.. However if you were to log back in via Forwarded Port over the WebUI you can log in and do a Reboot and the system will Recover.. However lets say that someone did this even without knowing at 11am, Your expecting a Package and they get there around 2 to 3 most times so at 4 you have not had an alert so you log in over P2P and see that the package is there so you think that is odd no alert lets playback and see when it was delivered. You try to play back and there is no footage since 11... No one is home and you don't get off work for another 2 hours... If you don't have anyway to log into your WebUI and reboot your system.. Sadly there was not anything telling me that my system was offline when I logged into the NVR over WebUI after the Remote Shutdown order was given.. So you could log in not even know and think your system is failing..
I have not setup any other accounts yet on the NVR for testing this out if this could happen with a User account but as of NOW I know it can happen with Admin account and that can be bad.. I did look over the footage from playback and sure enough after you give the Shutdown it is no longer Recording
I will do more Testing of this with different accounts and account types I will start with a User account and if it can not shut down then I will see if it could be setup for a different admin that you might be able to take away that right I will have to test this out still... Report to follow...
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Re: WOW I feel like I have a NEW NVR with 2020 FW lol
Ok So after some more testing, Here is what I found... Setting up a User they don't have access to Reboot or Shut down the system..
However keep in mind if you setup a person for admin they do have the ability to Reboot and shut down and after some testing found out that if you setup the person for Admin, Then edit the person you setup and Remove Device Maintenance from the System list of things they have access to they will no longer be able to Reboot or Shut down...
However keep in mind if you setup a person for admin they do have the ability to Reboot and shut down and after some testing found out that if you setup the person for Admin, Then edit the person you setup and Remove Device Maintenance from the System list of things they have access to they will no longer be able to Reboot or Shut down...
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Re: WOW I feel like I have a NEW NVR with 2020 FW lol
Another thing that while looking around today I seen and don't understand why it is there.. However in the WebUI, Management, Network, TCP/IP there is a Toggle that is checked for Virtual Host.. Huh Why my 2116-HS isn't a POE what is it pass through and to who?
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So there wouldn't be a Good test if I didn't try and follow the stats..
So looking at the Web page for the 2116-hs with 3tb even though I have a 4tb I couldn't find one with 4tb.. Anyway the one with 3tb says it will playback 1 4k or 16ch 1080p and I don't see this happening.. I have never tried and I am sure I wouldn't ever need to play back 16ch at once so it is kind of a Mute point however I thought others might want to know that I was not able to get more then 6ch to play back at 1 time in the NVR and everyone already knows there is a 4ch Limit over WebUI on the New FW... So I don't have 16ch 1080p and I have a Mix of 2mp, 3mp, 12mp and 720p cameras.. I tried to play 6 720p and 2 1080p cmaeras and was only able to get 6ch to play so I then tried to play 1 720p and 8 1080 and only 6ch loaded 1 720 and 5 1080 this was with my Doorbell camera.. Removed the Doorbell camera and tried to add in 2 more 1080p for 8 and no matter what I couldn't get more then 6ch to play back with anything over 6 with the message of Over Decode ability.. I even tried a mix of other cameras and when I tried to load 2 cameras that were 3mp and 6 other 1080p cameras oddly 5 cameras loaded with 3 showing the message... I never tried before the update so I am not sure if it did before and I normally look at no more then 4 at a time anyway...
So looking at the Web page for the 2116-hs with 3tb even though I have a 4tb I couldn't find one with 4tb.. Anyway the one with 3tb says it will playback 1 4k or 16ch 1080p and I don't see this happening.. I have never tried and I am sure I wouldn't ever need to play back 16ch at once so it is kind of a Mute point however I thought others might want to know that I was not able to get more then 6ch to play back at 1 time in the NVR and everyone already knows there is a 4ch Limit over WebUI on the New FW... So I don't have 16ch 1080p and I have a Mix of 2mp, 3mp, 12mp and 720p cameras.. I tried to play 6 720p and 2 1080p cmaeras and was only able to get 6ch to play so I then tried to play 1 720p and 8 1080 and only 6ch loaded 1 720 and 5 1080 this was with my Doorbell camera.. Removed the Doorbell camera and tried to add in 2 more 1080p for 8 and no matter what I couldn't get more then 6ch to play back with anything over 6 with the message of Over Decode ability.. I even tried a mix of other cameras and when I tried to load 2 cameras that were 3mp and 6 other 1080p cameras oddly 5 cameras loaded with 3 showing the message... I never tried before the update so I am not sure if it did before and I normally look at no more then 4 at a time anyway...
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Re: WOW I feel like I have a NEW NVR with 2020 FW lol
James, I think the decoding capacity also depends on fps, at least in this listing:
https://www.amazon.com/Amcrest-NV2116-H ... B07S6456GD
"Amcrest’s NV2116 16CH NVR comes with a Pre-Installed 3TB Hard Drive (Supports Hard Drives up to 6TB) and Features 16-Channel Recording in 1080P, 3-Megapixel, 4-Megapixel, 5-Megapixel and 6-Megapixel. It also features Live View and Playback at 1080P 4CH 30fps / 3MP 4CH 20fps / 4MP 4CH 15fps or 2CH 30fps / 5MP 1CH 30fps / 6MP 1CH 30fps."
https://www.amazon.com/Amcrest-NV2116-H ... B07S6456GD
"Amcrest’s NV2116 16CH NVR comes with a Pre-Installed 3TB Hard Drive (Supports Hard Drives up to 6TB) and Features 16-Channel Recording in 1080P, 3-Megapixel, 4-Megapixel, 5-Megapixel and 6-Megapixel. It also features Live View and Playback at 1080P 4CH 30fps / 3MP 4CH 20fps / 4MP 4CH 15fps or 2CH 30fps / 5MP 1CH 30fps / 6MP 1CH 30fps."
Re: WOW I feel like I have a NEW NVR with 2020 FW lol
Ok so I am not sure if this was just me or if it was a Fluke..
Last night I did a Factory Reset of the NVR because I was having some issues with my Doorbell camera Huh Wait me issues with my Doorbell camera going offline lol.. Yeah sadly I tried over my NVR to change Encoding for all my Channels and didn't think about the DB so when I got to that channel I made changes and after that the NVR and DB was going on and off and doorbell wouldn't stay connected, SO I thought ok do a DB Reboot, I rebooted my DB and still same issue.. So I Removed it from power, Still same issue after being returned to power.. It wouldn't stay connected so I did a Reset of the DB.. IT was acting funny so I thought maybe the NVR is changing things so I did a Factory Reset on that...
I went back added in my Cameras, Then everything was going well no more issues with DB going offline.. So I looked over things and seen that main was setup to record so I left that area on all channels.. I changed some to be Motion only and some to be Motion and full time.. The only thing I didn't do is change to where Sub was Recording Auto or even Manual as I normally have it setup for but was told it didn't matter only would record 1 anyway.. So I left for Main.. Well some reason when I returned today and was going to make a Video I found that since I did a Reset last night shortly after 11pm EST I had no Records of any type on all channels WTH...
2nd thing I found.. If your 2116-HS is setup to Record Snap SHots your wasting your HDD space.. I thought ok lets look at the Snap shots something had to Record HUH wait what THERE IS no where for me to even search for Snap shots so I have mine setup for All Ch Motion to take snapshots... I looked over WebUI and the NVR GUI and there is no Snapshot playback area to reach a snapshot to play back..
Last night I did a Factory Reset of the NVR because I was having some issues with my Doorbell camera Huh Wait me issues with my Doorbell camera going offline lol.. Yeah sadly I tried over my NVR to change Encoding for all my Channels and didn't think about the DB so when I got to that channel I made changes and after that the NVR and DB was going on and off and doorbell wouldn't stay connected, SO I thought ok do a DB Reboot, I rebooted my DB and still same issue.. So I Removed it from power, Still same issue after being returned to power.. It wouldn't stay connected so I did a Reset of the DB.. IT was acting funny so I thought maybe the NVR is changing things so I did a Factory Reset on that...
I went back added in my Cameras, Then everything was going well no more issues with DB going offline.. So I looked over things and seen that main was setup to record so I left that area on all channels.. I changed some to be Motion only and some to be Motion and full time.. The only thing I didn't do is change to where Sub was Recording Auto or even Manual as I normally have it setup for but was told it didn't matter only would record 1 anyway.. So I left for Main.. Well some reason when I returned today and was going to make a Video I found that since I did a Reset last night shortly after 11pm EST I had no Records of any type on all channels WTH...
2nd thing I found.. If your 2116-HS is setup to Record Snap SHots your wasting your HDD space.. I thought ok lets look at the Snap shots something had to Record HUH wait what THERE IS no where for me to even search for Snap shots so I have mine setup for All Ch Motion to take snapshots... I looked over WebUI and the NVR GUI and there is no Snapshot playback area to reach a snapshot to play back..
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Re: WOW I feel like I have a NEW NVR with 2020 FW lol
@jack7 Yes thanks I did see that as well I was going by what is listed on Amcrest Website for the NVR and that was where I got the 1ch 4k or 16ch 1080 for Playback..
From the Amcrest 3tb listing
AMCREST MODEL : NV2116-HS
NVR FEATURES :
Records 16-Channels, Max 80Mbps Incoming Bandwidth, supports max 7 cameras @ 4K.
Playback 1-Channel @ 4K or 16CH @1080P
From the Amcrest 3tb listing
AMCREST MODEL : NV2116-HS
NVR FEATURES :
Records 16-Channels, Max 80Mbps Incoming Bandwidth, supports max 7 cameras @ 4K.
Playback 1-Channel @ 4K or 16CH @1080P
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Re: WOW I feel like I have a NEW NVR with 2020 FW lol
So I have done some more looking around and found that all isn't lost if you save snapshots just I can't find anyway outside of using Amcrest View Pro app on my phone there I can see snapshots saved.. Might be able to using ASP but I have removed asp from all my Computers right now so I am not sure..
Over the GUI and WebUI I can't find anything for Snap shot playback
Cell Phone on my Samsung S9 I can play them back.. Oddly I have some setup to save however they are not saving so I am looking over that to find out what is going on there.. Somethings are easy and I like the look of the Software AKA GUI just not very easy to find things in the new layout...
Over the GUI and WebUI I can't find anything for Snap shot playback
Cell Phone on my Samsung S9 I can play them back.. Oddly I have some setup to save however they are not saving so I am looking over that to find out what is going on there.. Somethings are easy and I like the look of the Software AKA GUI just not very easy to find things in the new layout...
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